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"ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
 
   Share your views on Asbestos and other types of Cancers with TLC Africa Readers

.....In Liberia and many other parts of Africa that are affected by war, poverty and ignorance of the hidden dangers in certain materials and chemicals that were banned in the west, which have found markets in Africa, Liberians between 1990 and 2005, have been and continue to be exponentially exposed to the risk of Asbestos by the practice of collecting rain water that is running off roof tops in buckets, drums, pans and barrels. What is even more alarming is that the water is being by used by families for bathing, cooking, drinking and washing.

This qualifies many Liberians as being prime candidates for asbestos-related cancer. After all, what could be a better substantial environmental contact then washing with, bathing in and or drinking asbestos-tinted water!?! And again, according to the National Cancer Institute (NIC), it takes a long time for symptoms from exposure to asbestos to appear, some 10-40 years......


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  RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Jun-06-05 1
     RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? aninquiringmind Jun-07-05 2
         RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Pah K Suku Jr Jun-07-05 3
             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Jun-08-05 4
                 RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Jun-08-05 5
                     RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? aninquiringmind Jun-08-05 6
                         RE: The Silent Killer? aninquiringmind Jun-08-05 7
                         RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Jun-08-05 8
                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Jack the Rogue Jun-09-05 9
                                 RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Jun-09-05 10
                                     RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Hell-boy*** Jun-09-05 11
                                         RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Madjack Jun-09-05 12
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Pimp Jun-09-05 13
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? fattygirl Jun-09-05 14
                                     RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Her Majesty Jun-09-05 15
                                         RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Hell-boy** Jun-10-05 16
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Jun-10-05 17
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? a_mind Jun-21-05 18
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Queen Nov-21-05 20
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Her Majesty Nov-24-05 21
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Queen Nov-25-05 22
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Albert Nov-25-05 23
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? vai queen Nov-25-05 29
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Her Majesty Nov-25-05 24
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Queen Nov-25-05 25
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Her Majesty Nov-25-05 26
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Vai Queen Nov-25-05 27
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Hell-boy*** Nov-25-05 28
                                             RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Her Majesty Nov-26-05 30
  RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer? Johnson Aug-12-05 19

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Vai
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Jun-06-05, 03:05 PM (EST)
 
1. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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Share your views on Asbestos and other types of Cancers with TLC Africa Readers

.....In Liberia and many other parts of Africa that are affected by war, poverty and ignorance of the hidden dangers in certain materials and chemicals that were banned in the west, which have found markets in Africa, Liberians between 1990 and 2005, have been and continue to be exponentially exposed to the risk of Asbestos by the practice of collecting rain water that is running off roof tops in buckets, drums, pans and barrels. What is even more alarming is that the water is being by used by families for bathing, cooking, drinking and washing.

This qualifies many Liberians as being prime candidates for asbestos-related cancer. After all, what could be a better substantial environmental contact then washing with, bathing in and or drinking asbestos-tinted water!?! And again, according to the National Cancer Institute (NIC), it takes a long time for symptoms from exposure to asbestos to appear, some 10-40 years......


Asbestos is a silent killer indeed. Asbestos - the wonder material which has been around since ancient times. Its a common material that absorbs heat like none other and has been used in many everyday products such as pipe insulation, floor tiles, brake pads, roofing material, fireproofing material, etc. etc. In the US it has been abandoned since the 70's because of its ability to causes three main disease: Lung Cancer , Mesothelioma (cancer of the stomach linings), and Asbestosis (scarring of the lungs).

The problem is that Asbestos or ACM (Asbestos Containing Material) is not dangerous unless it its disturbed. Its a very Friable material (Easy to Crumble) and can get Airborne and be inhaled in my people. If you breathe in too much of it (>0.01 fibers/cubic centimeter), over time you may develop these diseases. The Latency Period to develop these 3 diseases is usually 30 years. Hence: The Silent Killer. You don't even know what caused it because you don't remember when you were working or playing around asbestos.

People need to become aware, especially in West African Countries and underdeveloped countries.

In my engineering experience I've been fortunate to attain a license as an Asbestos Project Monitor so take it from me, awareness on this issue is needed for our People.

...Vai


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aninquiringmind
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Jun-07-05, 12:10 PM (EST)
 
2. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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   This is, indeed, a very important topic. Thanks, Vai, for enlightening us with such an explicit explanation.
I’ve often heard and read about asbestos yet, I never stopped to think of its effects in our war-torn country. After reading this post, I realized that I had been seriously exposed to asbestos in my home and place of work in Liberia. This led me to begin an inventory of toxic materials integrated into almost every Liberian home.
The most obvious hazard, I realized, is lead. Lead is a highly toxic metal found in lead-based paints used in Liberia today. (I am not a materials specialist. The information I have here was obtained from articles I found on the web.)
Here’s an abstract of what I found on lead poisoning from this site, http://www.nsc.org/library/facts/lead.htm.

EXPOSURE
“Humans are exposed to lead through deteriorating paint, household dust, bare soil, air, drinking water, food, ceramics, home remedies, hair dyes and other cosmetics. Much of this lead is of microscopic size, invisible to the naked eye.”
Humans “can get seriously lead poisoned when RENOVATION and remodeling activities take place in a home that contains lead paint (**attn!!! There is massive renovation going on in Liberia).”
“Drinking water can also sometimes contribute to elevated blood lead levels. Lead can leach into drinking water from certain types of plumbing materials (lead pipes, copper pipes with lead solder, and brass faucets). “

EFFECTS
"In young CHILDREN under the age of six, lead caused reduced IQ, learning disabilities, attention deficit disorders, behavioral problems, stunted growth, impaired hearing, and kidney damage. At high levels of exposure, a child may become mentally retarded, fall into a coma, and even die from lead poisoning. Lead poisoning has also been associated with juvenile delinquency and criminal behavior."
"In ADULTS, lead can increase blood pressure and cause fertility problems, nerve disorders, muscle and joint pain, irritability, and memory or concentration problems. It takes a significantly greater level of exposure to lead for adults than it does for kids to sustain adverse health effects. "
"When a PREGNANT woman has an elevated blood lead level, that lead can easily be transferred to the fetus, as lead crosses the placenta. In fact, pregnancy itself can cause lead to be released from the bone, where lead is stored—often for decades—after it first enters the blood stream. (The same process can occur with the onset of menopause.) "


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Pah K Suku Jr
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Jun-07-05, 04:40 PM (EST)
 
3. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
In response to message #2
 
   Vai and inquiringmind, this is the type of info we need to transmit to our people back home and our government ought to take actions to safeguard consumers against unscrupoulous business people that know these effects and their adverse health complications, but yet sell these products to undevelop and even developing countries.

But on the comic side, pekin and my chicko inquiringmind-everytime i see reports like that and think about our many situations back home, it is both serious and funny. Because, we all drink abestoes water whether some people want to admit it or not, those rusty zinc water we all drank, the creek water we all drank-somebody once reminded me that other people lived upstream and their misuse or unuse floated down to us in the middle and we return the favor to those down below. God is truly merciful. Many people are dead because of things like this, but noooooooooooooooooo tha witchcraft kill them.

And those wellwater with all those little worms in there(I plan to disgust people today), rallytime market and waterside-all those poopoo flies on the food, one snot nose chiko use to sell bread by Cathedral by the Secretariat office, and the Jalloh right in the curve on front street by Telicom building never washed his hands after coughing and sneezing and then making your bread with mayonnaise and egg. LMAO


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Vai
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Jun-08-05, 08:07 AM (EST)
 
4. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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Vai and inquiringmind, this is the type of info we need to transmit to our people back home and our government ought to take actions to safeguard consumers against unscrupoulous business people that know these effects and their adverse health complications, but yet sell these products to undevelop and even developing countries.

But on the comic side, pekin and my chicko inquiringmind-everytime i see reports like that and think about our many situations back home, it is both serious and funny. Because, we all drink abestoes water whether some people want to admit it or not, those rusty zinc water we all drank, the creek water we all drank-somebody once reminded me that other people lived upstream and their misuse or unuse floated down to us in the middle and we return the favor to those down below. God is truly merciful. Many people are dead because of things like this, but noooooooooooooooooo tha witchcraft kill them.

And those wellwater with all those little worms in there(I plan to disgust people today), rallytime market and waterside-all those poopoo flies on the food, one snot nose chiko use to sell bread by Cathedral by the Secretariat office, and the Jalloh right in the curve on front street by Telicom building never washed his hands after coughing and sneezing and then making your bread with mayonnaise and egg. LMAO


LMAO. Pah Suku, you just made me lose my appetite for breakfast this morning man. I don't think I'll eat anything today as a matter of fact. Wow. What a shame, but its the God's Honest Truth!

And thanks to Aninquiringmind for showing me some love on my post about asbestos. Could this be a sign of a new found friendship between two CE majors? Your post on Lead was very enlightening as well my sister. Kudos to Aninquiringmind. And I cannot forget about Pah Suku, your post was especially enlightening, most unappetizing, but enlightening nevertheless.

We do need to take this issue to our new Leaders. Too often has Big Corporations and Western Governments taken advantage of West Africa and Africa as a whole. From the big Asbestos Company's (Johns-Mansville), The paint company's they are going after now like Glidden whose products contain lead and causing deaths, to the Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Companies whose use of products emit CFC's (chloro-fluoro-carbons) that damage the ozone layer. These Air Conditioners were banned by Western Nations but continue to be sold to African Nations. Even the garbage they pay us to store on our waters and landfills. Enough is enough.

Well those with the knowledge need to speak up, young or old. I'm willing to write some letters. How about you guys?

...Vai


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Vai
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Jun-08-05, 08:09 AM (EST)
 
5. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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Vai and inquiringmind, this is the type of info we need to transmit to our people back home and our government ought to take actions to safeguard consumers against unscrupoulous business people that know these effects and their adverse health complications, but yet sell these products to undevelop and even developing countries.

But on the comic side, pekin and my chicko inquiringmind-everytime i see reports like that and think about our many situations back home, it is both serious and funny. Because, we all drink abestoes water whether some people want to admit it or not, those rusty zinc water we all drank, the creek water we all drank-somebody once reminded me that other people lived upstream and their misuse or unuse floated down to us in the middle and we return the favor to those down below. God is truly merciful. Many people are dead because of things like this, but noooooooooooooooooo tha witchcraft kill them.

And those wellwater with all those little worms in there(I plan to disgust people today), rallytime market and waterside-all those poopoo flies on the food, one snot nose chiko use to sell bread by Cathedral by the Secretariat office, and the Jalloh right in the curve on front street by Telicom building never washed his hands after coughing and sneezing and then making your bread with mayonnaise and egg. LMAO

LMAO. Pah Suku, you just made me lose my appetite for breakfast this morning man. I don't think I'll eat anything today as a matter of fact. Wow. What a shame, but its the God's Honest Truth!

And thanks to Aninquiringmind for showing me some love on my post about asbestos. Could this be a sign of a new found friendship between two CE majors? Your post on Lead was very enlightening as well my sister. Kudos to Aninquiringmind. And I cannot forget about Pah Suku, your post was especially enlightening, most unappetizing, but enlightening nevertheless.

We do need to take this issue to our new Leaders. Too often has Big Corporations and Western Governments taken advantage of West Africa and Africa as a whole. From the big Asbestos Company's (Johns-Mansville), The paint company's they are going after now like Glidden whose products contain lead and causing deaths, to the Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Companies whose use of products emit CFC's (chloro-fluoro-carbons) that damage the ozone layer. These Air Conditioners were banned by Western Nations but continue to be sold to African Nations. Even the garbage they pay us to store on our waters and landfills. Enough is enough.

Well those with the knowledge need to speak up, young or old. I'm willing to write some letters. How about you guys?

...Vai


Oh, and this is a perfect time to write letters. Let these Presidential Hopefuls hear our voice loud and clear on these issues of the Environment. If they want our Vote, they need to tell us what they plan to do on these issues.

...Vai


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aninquiringmind
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Jun-08-05, 11:44 AM (EST)
 
6. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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LMAO. Pah Suku, you just made me lose my appetite for breakfast this morning man. I don't think I'll eat anything today as a matter of fact. Wow. What a shame, but its the God's Honest Truth!

And thanks to Aninquiringmind for showing me some love on my post about asbestos. Could this be a sign of a new found friendship between two CE majors? Your post on Lead was very enlightening as well my sister. Kudos to Aninquiringmind. And I cannot forget about Pah Suku, your post was especially enlightening, most unappetizing, but enlightening nevertheless.

We do need to take this issue to our new Leaders. Too often has Big Corporations and Western Governments taken advantage of West Africa and Africa as a whole. From the big Asbestos Company's (Johns-Mansville), The paint company's they are going after now like Glidden whose products contain lead and causing deaths, to the Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Companies whose use of products emit CFC's (chloro-fluoro-carbons) that damage the ozone layer. These Air Conditioners were banned by Western Nations but continue to be sold to African Nations. Even the garbage they pay us to store on our waters and landfills. Enough is enough.

Well those with the knowledge need to speak up, young or old. I'm willing to write some letters. How about you guys?

...Vai

Oh, and this is a perfect time to write letters. Let these Presidential Hopefuls hear our voice loud and clear on these issues of the Environment. If they want our Vote, they need to tell us what they plan to do on these issues.

...Vai


Vai, I am more than ready to start writing. The process of human sensitization is way overdue. Our people need to understand that there are too many subtle killers out there, claiming more lives per annum than the average civil war.

Here’s another silent serial killer in our nation - our road network. Although, I don't have recent Liberian statistics as yet, I considered the roads in the US and their fatality rates (about 45,000 persons per annum). I can only imagine. Liberia has no shoulders, no warning signs, no adequate lighting, no roadside clearance, no posted speed limits and anybody can get a driver’s license with the right amount of $$$.... go figure.

Here’s a typical scenario on Tubman Blvd. A vehicle screeches and someone screams, "if dah man kill it, if dah woman leave it?" I also recall people crashing daily due to improper geometric design and dying due to an inadequate health system.

Remember the joke, JFK – just for killing? I thought it was a pretty cruel thing to say, but then again…I really think the “Catholic Hospital junction” should be renamed “the intersection of death”. Man, people get into these fatal accidents and the ones who survive, get killed in the hospital for lack of supplies - Just plain depressing.

Ooooh, it really kills me. Let me quit here. In a nutshell, Vai, give me and address, and a topic and I'll get to typing. (PS. Transportation’s my thing)


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aninquiringmind
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Jun-08-05, 11:46 AM (EST)
 
7. "RE: The Silent Killer?"
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   You know, I wonder what keeps our cities from flooding. God's grace, maybe?. The sewage system is only a million (exaggerated) years old. Man, you'd think we would have established adequate water and wastewater facilities by now - and by that, I don't mean “dig a well in every yard” – back to the asbestos and paint intoxication. Do you believe some of these people paint their wells (I imagine for esthetic purposes)???
Yeah, bring it on, Let's write these politicians.....


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Vai
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Jun-08-05, 01:54 PM (EST)
 
8. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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LMAO. Pah Suku, you just made me lose my appetite for breakfast this morning man. I don't think I'll eat anything today as a matter of fact. Wow. What a shame, but its the God's Honest Truth!

And thanks to Aninquiringmind for showing me some love on my post about asbestos. Could this be a sign of a new found friendship between two CE majors? Your post on Lead was very enlightening as well my sister. Kudos to Aninquiringmind. And I cannot forget about Pah Suku, your post was especially enlightening, most unappetizing, but enlightening nevertheless.

We do need to take this issue to our new Leaders. Too often has Big Corporations and Western Governments taken advantage of West Africa and Africa as a whole. From the big Asbestos Company's (Johns-Mansville), The paint company's they are going after now like Glidden whose products contain lead and causing deaths, to the Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Companies whose use of products emit CFC's (chloro-fluoro-carbons) that damage the ozone layer. These Air Conditioners were banned by Western Nations but continue to be sold to African Nations. Even the garbage they pay us to store on our waters and landfills. Enough is enough.

Well those with the knowledge need to speak up, young or old. I'm willing to write some letters. How about you guys?

...Vai

Oh, and this is a perfect time to write letters. Let these Presidential Hopefuls hear our voice loud and clear on these issues of the Environment. If they want our Vote, they need to tell us what they plan to do on these issues.

...Vai

Vai, I am more than ready to start writing. The process of human sensitization is way overdue. Our people need to understand that there are too many subtle killers out there, claiming more lives per annum than the average civil war.

Here’s another silent serial killer in our nation - our road network. Although, I don't have recent Liberian statistics as yet, I considered the roads in the US and their fatality rates (about 45,000 persons per annum). I can only imagine. Liberia has no shoulders, no warning signs, no adequate lighting, no roadside clearance, no posted speed limits and anybody can get a driver’s license with the right amount of $$$.... go figure.

Here’s a typical scenario on Tubman Blvd. A vehicle screeches and someone screams, "if dah man kill it, if dah woman leave it?" I also recall people crashing daily due to improper geometric design and dying due to an inadequate health system.

Remember the joke, JFK – just for killing? I thought it was a pretty cruel thing to say, but then again…I really think the “Catholic Hospital junction” should be renamed “the intersection of death”. Man, people get into these fatal accidents and the ones who survive, get killed in the hospital for lack of supplies - Just plain depressing.

Ooooh, it really kills me. Let me quit here. In a nutshell, Vai, give me and address, and a topic and I'll get to typing. (PS. Transportation’s my thing)


Yo, I was just reading your message thinkin, she must be a Transportation Engineer and sure enough. I see you. I took the construction management route myself.

I remember that joke on JFK too. We are sooo far behind man its no laughing matter though. As far as an address, to write too, one place we can start is the Campaign managers for each of the Presidential Candidates, most of whom have websites. The next place I would look to would be the Embassy in NY and DC. I'm sure our voices can get heard if we start there. It would be nice if I can get the Interim President now, Mr. Bryant, to read a few letters from me. Afterall, he and my dad were classmates.

Well I'll do some research and get back to you on this.

...Vai


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Jack the Rogue
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Jun-09-05, 00:13 AM (EST)
 
9. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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LMAO. Pah Suku, you just made me lose my appetite for breakfast this morning man. I don't think I'll eat anything today as a matter of fact. Wow. What a shame, but its the God's Honest Truth!

And thanks to Aninquiringmind for showing me some love on my post about asbestos. Could this be a sign of a new found friendship between two CE majors? Your post on Lead was very enlightening as well my sister. Kudos to Aninquiringmind. And I cannot forget about Pah Suku, your post was especially enlightening, most unappetizing, but enlightening nevertheless.

We do need to take this issue to our new Leaders. Too often has Big Corporations and Western Governments taken advantage of West Africa and Africa as a whole. From the big Asbestos Company's (Johns-Mansville), The paint company's they are going after now like Glidden whose products contain lead and causing deaths, to the Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Companies whose use of products emit CFC's (chloro-fluoro-carbons) that damage the ozone layer. These Air Conditioners were banned by Western Nations but continue to be sold to African Nations. Even the garbage they pay us to store on our waters and landfills. Enough is enough.

Well those with the knowledge need to speak up, young or old. I'm willing to write some letters. How about you guys?

...Vai

Oh, and this is a perfect time to write letters. Let these Presidential Hopefuls hear our voice loud and clear on these issues of the Environment. If they want our Vote, they need to tell us what they plan to do on these issues.

...Vai

Vai, I am more than ready to start writing. The process of human sensitization is way overdue. Our people need to understand that there are too many subtle killers out there, claiming more lives per annum than the average civil war.

Here’s another silent serial killer in our nation - our road network. Although, I don't have recent Liberian statistics as yet, I considered the roads in the US and their fatality rates (about 45,000 persons per annum). I can only imagine. Liberia has no shoulders, no warning signs, no adequate lighting, no roadside clearance, no posted speed limits and anybody can get a driver’s license with the right amount of $$$.... go figure.

Here’s a typical scenario on Tubman Blvd. A vehicle screeches and someone screams, "if dah man kill it, if dah woman leave it?" I also recall people crashing daily due to improper geometric design and dying due to an inadequate health system.

Remember the joke, JFK – just for killing? I thought it was a pretty cruel thing to say, but then again…I really think the “Catholic Hospital junction” should be renamed “the intersection of death”. Man, people get into these fatal accidents and the ones who survive, get killed in the hospital for lack of supplies - Just plain depressing.

Ooooh, it really kills me. Let me quit here. In a nutshell, Vai, give me and address, and a topic and I'll get to typing. (PS. Transportation’s my thing)

Yo, I was just reading your message thinkin, she must be a Transportation Engineer and sure enough. I see you. I took the construction management route myself.

I remember that joke on JFK too. We are sooo far behind man its no laughing matter though. As far as an address, to write too, one place we can start is the Campaign managers for each of the Presidential Candidates, most of whom have websites. The next place I would look to would be the Embassy in NY and DC. I'm sure our voices can get heard if we start there. It would be nice if I can get the Interim President now, Mr. Bryant, to read a few letters from me. Afterall, he and my dad were classmates.

Well I'll do some research and get back to you on this.

...Vai


Anything (heavy breathing)....that you guys need (more breathing)....let Jack know.......wow.....I just got thru that fight with that Marine fellow SkinnyPost put on my ass.......


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Vai
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Jun-09-05, 08:24 AM (EST)
 
10. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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LMAO. Pah Suku, you just made me lose my appetite for breakfast this morning man. I don't think I'll eat anything today as a matter of fact. Wow. What a shame, but its the God's Honest Truth!

And thanks to Aninquiringmind for showing me some love on my post about asbestos. Could this be a sign of a new found friendship between two CE majors? Your post on Lead was very enlightening as well my sister. Kudos to Aninquiringmind. And I cannot forget about Pah Suku, your post was especially enlightening, most unappetizing, but enlightening nevertheless.

We do need to take this issue to our new Leaders. Too often has Big Corporations and Western Governments taken advantage of West Africa and Africa as a whole. From the big Asbestos Company's (Johns-Mansville), The paint company's they are going after now like Glidden whose products contain lead and causing deaths, to the Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Companies whose use of products emit CFC's (chloro-fluoro-carbons) that damage the ozone layer. These Air Conditioners were banned by Western Nations but continue to be sold to African Nations. Even the garbage they pay us to store on our waters and landfills. Enough is enough.

Well those with the knowledge need to speak up, young or old. I'm willing to write some letters. How about you guys?

...Vai

Oh, and this is a perfect time to write letters. Let these Presidential Hopefuls hear our voice loud and clear on these issues of the Environment. If they want our Vote, they need to tell us what they plan to do on these issues.

...Vai

Vai, I am more than ready to start writing. The process of human sensitization is way overdue. Our people need to understand that there are too many subtle killers out there, claiming more lives per annum than the average civil war.

Here’s another silent serial killer in our nation - our road network. Although, I don't have recent Liberian statistics as yet, I considered the roads in the US and their fatality rates (about 45,000 persons per annum). I can only imagine. Liberia has no shoulders, no warning signs, no adequate lighting, no roadside clearance, no posted speed limits and anybody can get a driver’s license with the right amount of $$$.... go figure.

Here’s a typical scenario on Tubman Blvd. A vehicle screeches and someone screams, "if dah man kill it, if dah woman leave it?" I also recall people crashing daily due to improper geometric design and dying due to an inadequate health system.

Remember the joke, JFK – just for killing? I thought it was a pretty cruel thing to say, but then again…I really think the “Catholic Hospital junction” should be renamed “the intersection of death”. Man, people get into these fatal accidents and the ones who survive, get killed in the hospital for lack of supplies - Just plain depressing.

Ooooh, it really kills me. Let me quit here. In a nutshell, Vai, give me and address, and a topic and I'll get to typing. (PS. Transportation’s my thing)

Yo, I was just reading your message thinkin, she must be a Transportation Engineer and sure enough. I see you. I took the construction management route myself.

I remember that joke on JFK too. We are sooo far behind man its no laughing matter though. As far as an address, to write too, one place we can start is the Campaign managers for each of the Presidential Candidates, most of whom have websites. The next place I would look to would be the Embassy in NY and DC. I'm sure our voices can get heard if we start there. It would be nice if I can get the Interim President now, Mr. Bryant, to read a few letters from me. Afterall, he and my dad were classmates.

Well I'll do some research and get back to you on this.

...Vai

Anything (heavy breathing)....that you guys need (more breathing)....let Jack know.......wow.....I just got thru that fight with that Marine fellow SkinnyPost put on my ass.......


LOL. yea that one was a bit of a battle, but I had faith in you Mad Jack.

I'm looking up some info for these candidates and will post a message sometime this morning with their contact info or websites to get the info. The more letters we send the better. We should be united on our message though so, so far the topics we have to write about are:

1. asbestos
2. lead paint
3. CFC's caused by use of old air conditioning and refrigeration units
4. sanitation - sewer treatment plants, proper drainage structures
5. inferior roadways/highways and transportation devices (traffic lights, signage, striping, maintenance)
6. acceptance of garbage from other nations

What else can we add to this list, besides the normal issues: healthcare, poverty, war, food, jobs, security, etc. Let's think outside the box, hit them with things they haven't thought of or are not on their agenda.

...Vai


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Jun-09-05, 09:17 AM (EST)
 
11. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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LMAO. Pah Suku, you just made me lose my appetite for breakfast this morning man. I don't think I'll eat anything today as a matter of fact. Wow. What a shame, but its the God's Honest Truth!

And thanks to Aninquiringmind for showing me some love on my post about asbestos. Could this be a sign of a new found friendship between two CE majors? Your post on Lead was very enlightening as well my sister. Kudos to Aninquiringmind. And I cannot forget about Pah Suku, your post was especially enlightening, most unappetizing, but enlightening nevertheless.

We do need to take this issue to our new Leaders. Too often has Big Corporations and Western Governments taken advantage of West Africa and Africa as a whole. From the big Asbestos Company's (Johns-Mansville), The paint company's they are going after now like Glidden whose products contain lead and causing deaths, to the Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Companies whose use of products emit CFC's (chloro-fluoro-carbons) that damage the ozone layer. These Air Conditioners were banned by Western Nations but continue to be sold to African Nations. Even the garbage they pay us to store on our waters and landfills. Enough is enough.

Well those with the knowledge need to speak up, young or old. I'm willing to write some letters. How about you guys?

...Vai

Oh, and this is a perfect time to write letters. Let these Presidential Hopefuls hear our voice loud and clear on these issues of the Environment. If they want our Vote, they need to tell us what they plan to do on these issues.

...Vai

Vai, I am more than ready to start writing. The process of human sensitization is way overdue. Our people need to understand that there are too many subtle killers out there, claiming more lives per annum than the average civil war.

Here’s another silent serial killer in our nation - our road network. Although, I don't have recent Liberian statistics as yet, I considered the roads in the US and their fatality rates (about 45,000 persons per annum). I can only imagine. Liberia has no shoulders, no warning signs, no adequate lighting, no roadside clearance, no posted speed limits and anybody can get a driver’s license with the right amount of $$$.... go figure.

Here’s a typical scenario on Tubman Blvd. A vehicle screeches and someone screams, "if dah man kill it, if dah woman leave it?" I also recall people crashing daily due to improper geometric design and dying due to an inadequate health system.

Remember the joke, JFK – just for killing? I thought it was a pretty cruel thing to say, but then again…I really think the “Catholic Hospital junction” should be renamed “the intersection of death”. Man, people get into these fatal accidents and the ones who survive, get killed in the hospital for lack of supplies - Just plain depressing.

Ooooh, it really kills me. Let me quit here. In a nutshell, Vai, give me and address, and a topic and I'll get to typing. (PS. Transportation’s my thing)

Yo, I was just reading your message thinkin, she must be a Transportation Engineer and sure enough. I see you. I took the construction management route myself.

I remember that joke on JFK too. We are sooo far behind man its no laughing matter though. As far as an address, to write too, one place we can start is the Campaign managers for each of the Presidential Candidates, most of whom have websites. The next place I would look to would be the Embassy in NY and DC. I'm sure our voices can get heard if we start there. It would be nice if I can get the Interim President now, Mr. Bryant, to read a few letters from me. Afterall, he and my dad were classmates.

Well I'll do some research and get back to you on this.

...Vai

Anything (heavy breathing)....that you guys need (more breathing)....let Jack know.......wow.....I just got thru that fight with that Marine fellow SkinnyPost put on my ass.......

LOL. yea that one was a bit of a battle, but I had faith in you Mad Jack.

I'm looking up some info for these candidates and will post a message sometime this morning with their contact info or websites to get the info. The more letters we send the better. We should be united on our message though so, so far the topics we have to write about are:

1. asbestos
2. lead paint
3. CFC's caused by use of old air conditioning and refrigeration units
4. sanitation - sewer treatment plants, proper drainage structures
5. inferior roadways/highways and transportation devices (traffic lights, signage, striping, maintenance)
6. acceptance of garbage from other nations

What else can we add to this list, besides the normal issues: healthcare, poverty, war, food, jobs, security, etc. Let's think outside the box, hit them with things they haven't thought of or are not on their agenda.

...Vai



I was told the City is a waste dump...I said maybe I should get a couple of gabage trucks and head down there and start running one of those Mafia sanitation companys...someone said "who's gonna pay you to pick you dirt in Monrovia" I thoght of it and burst out laughing.

Put gabage disposal on that list.


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12. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
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LMAO. Pah Suku, you just made me lose my appetite for breakfast this morning man. I don't think I'll eat anything today as a matter of fact. Wow. What a shame, but its the God's Honest Truth!

And thanks to Aninquiringmind for showing me some love on my post about asbestos. Could this be a sign of a new found friendship between two CE majors? Your post on Lead was very enlightening as well my sister. Kudos to Aninquiringmind. And I cannot forget about Pah Suku, your post was especially enlightening, most unappetizing, but enlightening nevertheless.

We do need to take this issue to our new Leaders. Too often has Big Corporations and Western Governments taken advantage of West Africa and Africa as a whole. From the big Asbestos Company's (Johns-Mansville), The paint company's they are going after now like Glidden whose products contain lead and causing deaths, to the Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Companies whose use of products emit CFC's (chloro-fluoro-carbons) that damage the ozone layer. These Air Conditioners were banned by Western Nations but continue to be sold to African Nations. Even the garbage they pay us to store on our waters and landfills. Enough is enough.

Well those with the knowledge need to speak up, young or old. I'm willing to write some letters. How about you guys?

...Vai

Oh, and this is a perfect time to write letters. Let these Presidential Hopefuls hear our voice loud and clear on these issues of the Environment. If they want our Vote, they need to tell us what they plan to do on these issues.

...Vai

Vai, I am more than ready to start writing. The process of human sensitization is way overdue. Our people need to understand that there are too many subtle killers out there, claiming more lives per annum than the average civil war.

Here’s another silent serial killer in our nation - our road network. Although, I don't have recent Liberian statistics as yet, I considered the roads in the US and their fatality rates (about 45,000 persons per annum). I can only imagine. Liberia has no shoulders, no warning signs, no adequate lighting, no roadside clearance, no posted speed limits and anybody can get a driver’s license with the right amount of $$$.... go figure.

Here’s a typical scenario on Tubman Blvd. A vehicle screeches and someone screams, "if dah man kill it, if dah woman leave it?" I also recall people crashing daily due to improper geometric design and dying due to an inadequate health system.

Remember the joke, JFK – just for killing? I thought it was a pretty cruel thing to say, but then again…I really think the “Catholic Hospital junction” should be renamed “the intersection of death”. Man, people get into these fatal accidents and the ones who survive, get killed in the hospital for lack of supplies - Just plain depressing.

Ooooh, it really kills me. Let me quit here. In a nutshell, Vai, give me and address, and a topic and I'll get to typing. (PS. Transportation’s my thing)

Yo, I was just reading your message thinkin, she must be a Transportation Engineer and sure enough. I see you. I took the construction management route myself.

I remember that joke on JFK too. We are sooo far behind man its no laughing matter though. As far as an address, to write too, one place we can start is the Campaign managers for each of the Presidential Candidates, most of whom have websites. The next place I would look to would be the Embassy in NY and DC. I'm sure our voices can get heard if we start there. It would be nice if I can get the Interim President now, Mr. Bryant, to read a few letters from me. Afterall, he and my dad were classmates.

Well I'll do some research and get back to you on this.

...Vai

Anything (heavy breathing)....that you guys need (more breathing)....let Jack know.......wow.....I just got thru that fight with that Marine fellow SkinnyPost put on my ass.......

LOL. yea that one was a bit of a battle, but I had faith in you Mad Jack.

I'm looking up some info for these candidates and will post a message sometime this morning with their contact info or websites to get the info. The more letters we send the better. We should be united on our message though so, so far the topics we have to write about are:

1. asbestos
2. lead paint
3. CFC's caused by use of old air conditioning and refrigeration units
4. sanitation - sewer treatment plants, proper drainage structures
5. inferior roadways/highways and transportation devices (traffic lights, signage, striping, maintenance)
6. acceptance of garbage from other nations

What else can we add to this list, besides the normal issues: healthcare, poverty, war, food, jobs, security, etc. Let's think outside the box, hit them with things they haven't thought of or are not on their agenda.

...Vai


I was told the City is a waste dump...I said maybe I should get a couple of gabage trucks and head down there and start running one of those Mafia sanitation companys...someone said "who's gonna pay you to pick you dirt in Monrovia" I thoght of it and burst out laughing.

Put gabage disposal on that list.

LMAO


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Vai Pimp
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Jun-09-05, 11:51 AM (EST)
 
13. "RE: ASBESTOS: The Silent Killer?"
In response to message #12
 
  


LMAO. Pah Suku, you just made me lose my appetite for breakfast this morning man. I don't think I'll eat anything today as a matter of fact. Wow. What a shame, but its the God's Honest Truth!

And thanks to Aninquiringmind for showing me some love on my post about asbestos. Could this be a sign of a new found friendship between two CE majors? Your post on Lead was very enlightening as well my sister. Kudos to Aninquiringmind. And I cannot forget about Pah Suku, your post was especially enlightening, most unappetizing, but enlightening nevertheless.

We do need to take this issue to our new Leaders. Too often has Big Corporations and Western Governments taken advantage of West Africa and Africa as a whole. From the big Asbestos Company's (Johns-Mansville), The paint company's they are going after now like Glidden whose products contain lead and causing deaths, to the Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Companies whose use of products emit CFC's (chloro-fluoro-carbons) that damage the ozone layer. These Air Conditioners were banned by Western Nations but continue to be sold to African Nations. Even the garbage they pay us to store on our waters and landfills. Enough is enough.

Well those with the knowledge need to speak up, young or old. I'm willing to write some letters. How about you guys?

...Vai

Oh, and this is a perfect time to write letters. Let these Presidential Hopefuls hear our voice loud and clear on these issues of the Environment. If they want our Vote, they need to tell us what they plan to do on these issues.

...Vai

Vai, I am more than ready to start writing. The process of human sensitization is way overdue. Our people need to understand that there are too many subtle killers out there, claiming more lives per annum than the average civil war.

Here’s another silent serial killer in our nation - our road network. Although, I don't have recent Liberian statistics as yet, I considered the roads in the US and their fatality rates (about 45,000 persons per annum). I can only imagine. Liberia has no shoulders, no warning signs, no adequate lighting, no roadside clearance, no posted speed limits and anybody can get a driver’s license with the right amount of $$$.... go figure.

Here’s a typical scenario on Tubman Blvd. A vehicle screeches and someone screams, "if dah man kill it, if dah woman leave it?" I also recall people crashing daily due to improper geometric design and dying due to an inadequate health system.

Remember the joke, JFK – just for killing? I thought it was a pretty cruel thing to say, but then again…I really think the “Catholic Hospital junction” should be renamed “the intersection of death”. Man, people get into these fatal accidents and the ones who survive, get killed in the hospital for lack of supplies - Just plain depressing.

Ooooh, it really kills me. Let me quit here. In a nutshell, Vai, give me and address, and a topic and I'll get to typing. (PS. Transportation’s my thing)

Yo, I was just reading your message thinkin, she must be a Transportation Engineer and sure enough. I see you. I took the construction management route myself.

I remember that joke on JFK too. We are sooo far behind man its no laughing matter though. As far as an address, to write too, one place we can start is the Campaign managers for each of the Presidential Candidates, most of whom have websites. The next place I would look to would be the Embassy in NY and DC. I'm sure our voices can get heard if we start there. It would be nice if I can get the Interim President now, Mr. Bryant, to read a few letters from me. Afterall, he and my dad were classmates.

Well I'll do some research and get back to you on this.

...Vai

Anything (heavy breathing)....that you guys need (more breathing)....let Jack know.......wow.....I just got thru that fight with that Marine fellow SkinnyPost put on my ass.......

LOL. yea that one was a bit of a battle, but I had faith in you Mad Jack.

I'm looking up some info for these candidates and will post a message sometime this morning with their contact info or websites to get the info. The more letters we send the better. We should be united on our message though so, so far the topics we have to write about are:

1. asbestos
2. lead paint
3. CFC's caused by use of old air conditioning and refrigeration units
4. sanitation - sewer treatment plants, proper drainage structures
5. inferior roadways/highways and transportation devices (traffic lights, signage, striping, maintenance)
6. acceptance of garbage from other nations

What else can we add to this list, besides the normal issues: healthcare, poverty, war, food, jobs, security, etc. Let's think outside the box, hit them with things they haven't thought of or are not on their agenda.

...Vai


I was told the City is a waste dump...I said maybe I should get a couple of gabage trucks and head down there and start running one of those Mafia sanitation companys...someone said "who's gonna pay you to pick you dirt in Monrovia" I thoght of it and burst out laughing.

Put gabage disposal on that list.

LMAO

Great Minds think alike son. I've talked about that many times with my fam. We need some damn Garbage Trucks son LOL. Simple things like that we don't even have man. Why are we so backwards? Maybe that should be the subject of the letter, lol, Why are we so backwards Mrs Sirleaf, or Mr. Brumskine, or Mr. Sherman, Mr. Tubman?

LOL.

Yup, you got that one, Garbage Disposal will be #7 on the list.

...Vai

Ps: becareful what you ask for, you might just get a lil mafia crew taking control of the garbage routes kid. LOL That's all we need.