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POLL: If spared the expense of traveling to Liberia twice to Register and Vote by being able to Register and Vote in your current country of Residence, how much Voters Registration fee will you be willing to pay?
Posted by admin on Jan-13-05, 03:28 PM EST
Result after a total of 219 votes

$200.00 30 votes, 13% Vote for this choice
$150.00 2 votes, 0% Vote for this choice
$100.00 98 votes, 44% Vote for this choice
$75.00 5 votes, 2% Vote for this choice
$50.00 13 votes, 5% Vote for this choice
$25.00 71 votes, 32% Vote for this choice
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If spared the expense of traveling to Liberia twice to ... [View All] adminadmin Jan-13-05 TOP
  Paying to Register or Vote Leon Q. Ledlum Jan-13-05 1
     RE: Paying to Register or Vote Ciata Jan-14-05 2
         RE: Paying to Register or Vote Leon Q. Ledlum Jan-20-05 3
             RE: Paying to Register or Vote Leon Q. Ledlum Jan-20-05 4
                 RE: Paying to Register or Vote Leon Q. Ledlum Jan-20-05 5
                     RE: Paying to Register or Vote M. Fulton Yancy Jan-26-05 6
                         RE: Paying to Register or Vote Leon Q. Ledlum Jan-27-05 7
     RE: Paying to Register or Vote Noko4 Feb-02-05 8

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Leon Q. Ledlum
unregistered user
Jan-13-05, 11:36 PM (EST)
 
1. "Paying to Register or Vote"
In response to message #0
 
   This may appear to be a solution to the liquidity problem faced by the NEC, but it would be challenged in court, as illegal. The Liberian Constitution says voting shall be free to all qualified Liberians.


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Ciata
unregistered user
Jan-14-05, 10:50 AM (EST)
 
2. "RE: Paying to Register or Vote"
In response to message #1
 
   LAST EDITED ON Jan-14-05 AT 12:19 PM (EST) by admin (admin)
 
Even if the fee is a registration fee and not a voting fee?

The funds will only be used to help facilitate creating new registration and polling stations at the Liberian Embassy in the US. If the NEC does not have the funds and the citizens requiring the services are able to raise the funds, to assist the NEC, I think they should be allowed.

These are strange times, Liberians have to come up with new and creative ways to get the things they need done to help move the country and the people forward. For years we claim, everyone is waiting for the government to do everything, we are stepping forward and saying that we are ready and willing to help the government accomplish this important task.

We are the people, and we should not let those with limited vision use the constitution to block the people progress.

We are members of the global village, it is a result of our, inefficient, ineffective, dictorial governments, and their wars that disburse us around the world, now let them accommodate us. The future calls for us to dictate to our government what we want and not the other way around.

We have that right. The NEC can make it possible, if that is what the people want. The rest is just a matter of logistics, especially if the people are willing to pay for the service by raising funds to cover the cost, and the International Community is willing to help us "PLAY FAIR" by monitoring and reporting on the process.

No Execuses......


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Leon Q. Ledlum
unregistered user
Jan-20-05, 03:49 PM (EST)
 
3. "RE: Paying to Register or Vote"
In response to message #2
 
   >Even if the fee is a registration fee and not a voting fee?
>
>The funds will only be used to help facilitate creating new
>registration and polling stations at the Liberian Embassy in
>the US. If the NEC does not have the funds and the citizens
>requiring the services are able to raise the funds, to
>assist the NEC, I think they should be allowed.
>
>These are strange times, Liberians have to come up with new
>and creative ways to get the things they need done to help
>move the country and the people forward. For years we
>claim, everyone is waiting for the government to do
>everything, we are stepping forward and saying that we are
>ready and willing to help the government accomplish this
>important task.
>
>We are the people, and we should not let those with limited
>vision use the constitution to block the people progress.
>
>We are members of the global village, it is a result of our,
>inefficient, ineffective, dictorial governments, and their
>wars that disburse us around the world, now let them
>accommodate us. The future calls for us to dictate to our
>government what we want and not the other way around.
>
>We have that right. The NEC can make it possible, if that is
>what the people want. The rest is just a matter of
>logistics, especially if the people are willing to pay for
>the service by raising funds to cover the cost, and the
>International Community is willing to help us "PLAY FAIR" by
>monitoring and reporting on the process.
>
>No Execuses......


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Leon Q. Ledlum
unregistered user
Jan-20-05, 04:24 PM (EST)
 
4. "RE: Paying to Register or Vote"
In response to message #3
 
   My apology for the previous posting.


>Even if the fee is a registration fee and not a voting fee?

Yes Ciata! Any attempt to solicite funds for elections from the electorates by the election authority, to participate in a national or local elections is tantamount to fees paid for voting, which according to what I understand from our laws, is illigal.

I can understand the desire for citizens wanting to help their nation for a course, but without the explicite revocation of the legal impediment, any Liberian citizen may choose to challenge the results of any election that solicited payment for part of the process by the electorates. Mind you, "REGISTRATION" is psrt of the electoral process. You can vote without registration.

The Liberian Constitution guarantees for all Liberians, free and fair elections in the Republic of Liberia; and qualified Liberians, no matter their geographical location, have the right to participate.
There are many ways to seek help for elections only if the country in question deems it necessary. And should the GOL want our paricipation in the coming elections, all it has to do is to request for that assistant.

It appears disingenuous to me if the GOL should use the usual "lack of funds" as the excuse. Paying to participate in any election, is to me a NON STARTER!


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Leon Q. Ledlum
unregistered user
Jan-20-05, 04:29 PM (EST)
 
5. "RE: Paying to Register or Vote"
In response to message #4
 
   "You can vote without registration".

This should read: You cannot vote without registration.


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M. Fulton Yancy
unregistered user
Jan-26-05, 01:17 PM (EST)
 
6. "RE: Paying to Register or Vote"
In response to message #5
 
  
What safe-guards shall be taken to ensure that only LIBERIAN Citizens register in Foreign Countries?
So many Liberians have become Citizens of the US and other Nations, thereby forfeiting their RIGHT to vote in Liberia.
Be not deceived, there is NO DUAL CITIZENSHIP betwen LIBERIA and any other Nation on this Earth. You are a Liberian or you are an Alien.
Choose now!!!


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Leon Q. Ledlum
unregistered user
Jan-27-05, 01:19 PM (EST)
 
7. "RE: Paying to Register or Vote"
In response to message #6
 
   >
>What safe-guards shall be taken to ensure that only LIBERIAN
>Citizens register in Foreign Countries?
>So many Liberians have become Citizens of the US and other
>Nations, thereby forfeiting their RIGHT to vote in Liberia.
>Be not deceived, there is NO DUAL CITIZENSHIP betwen LIBERIA
>and any other Nation on this Earth. You are a Liberian or
>you are an Alien.
>Choose now!!!

Thank you Cllr. I have on many ocassions written about this, but some Liberians are bent on having their way be the LAW.


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Noko4
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Feb-02-05, 04:57 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Paying to Register or Vote"
In response to message #1
 
   >This may appear to be a solution to the liquidity problem
>faced by the NEC, but it would be challenged in court, as
>illegal. The Liberian Constitution says voting shall be free
>to all qualified Liberians.

Leon
YES ILLEGAL...but the current situations are not FULLY governed by the constitution....we have a SELECTED or APPOINTED gov't. Moreso, given that FUND is the CRY....I strongly believe we who are willing to go home won't mind spending some kind of fees to be PART OF.

Noko4

Be good on your way up...you will see us on your way down.


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